Friday afternoon and into the evening, commuters headed east on E. Cypress Road in Oakley heading towards Bethel Island, and Far East Oakley were left waiting for a rollover accident to clear. Complicating matter, there were several other incidents out that direction which further delayed commuters home.
Many were left asking “What took so long?”.
It turns out, there was actually additional incidents out that way that reduced available resources on scene.
According to Chief Hugh Henderson, the District was quite busy running 14-calls between 3:30 pm and 7:00 pm Friday. He notes that during this time frame, the East Contra Costa Fire Protection District along with AMR was running “thin” on available resources.
Below is a summary of the calls–calls required along E. Cypress have been put in “bold”.
- 3:30 PM auto accident East Cypress road and Knightsen Avenue
- 4:27 PM medical emergency 400 block Vinewood drive
- 4:28 PM medical emergency 4600 Block Balfour Rd.
- 4:31 PM medical emergency 300 block Round Hill Drive
- 4:55 PM structure fire 1100 Block Hazelwood Court
- 4:56 PM medical emergency 3500 block Gateway road
- 5:08 PM vehicle accident Lonetree way and Medallion drive
- 5:13 PM medical emergency 4200 block Stone Rd.
- 5:29 PM vehicle accident East Cypress Rd. and Jersey Island Road
- 5:32 PM exterior fire 7000 block Holland tract
- 5:45 PM medical emergency 2000 Block Main St.
- 6:04 PM hazardous condition 3000 Block Mills Dr.
- 6:30 PM hazardous condition 800 block Dainty Ave
- 7:04 PM 5000 block of Neroly Rd
Photo courtesy of Amy Daugherty Crawford
35 comments
Since this was East of Knightsen Road, volunteers would have been a good option towards helping provide relief to those in need. Could have been on scene of the two possible residential fires to alert ECCFPD if there was actually a fire or not.
Bobby, the volunteer angle has been covered so much so that I will basically post a cut and paste instead of wasting our time.
Volunteer diversion again? Sorry but that used up tactic has left the building. It hasn’t been feasible for a volunteer department in this area for a long, long time and it’s not going to happen no matter how YOU hope and pray. The days of playing fireman are OVER. We are NEVER going backwards. N-E-V-E-R. Volunteer programs are non existent anymore in a civilized, populated and educated society. You might want to check your demographics. We don’t live in Jumbuck, Idaho and this isn’t 1970. The modern workload, mandatory training obligations, OSHA, legal issues and a host of other factors make the idea dead on arrival.
You know having volunteers work for free alongside paid professionals is a nonstarter OR are you just playing dumb to save a few bucks? You really think anyone is foolish enough to risk their lives, health and free time to work next to someone else that is getting paid a full salary including benefits?
You really think anyone wants to risk losing their regular job and pay if they got hurt playing fireman? Or showed up for their regular job late or tired, because they were out at 4:57 a.m. putting out a garage fire? Are you under the false impression that emergencies happen only when it is convenient for fictitious volunteers to respond?
It is nice of you to volunteer fictitious individuals to deliver the duties of a paid professionals in a often dangerous job, are you yourself volunteering? If so do you also provide Dentistry? Plumbing? Engineering, Neuroscience or any other skilled labor? Sometimes those professions are understaffed as well. I once read a book on open heart surgery, want me to do your operation? (I hear those silly doctors are really overpaid!)
You know it wasn’t that long ago when people played with mercury in their bare hands, or played a game called “lawn darts” or even used asbestos as insulation. To do so now would be considered crazy. The same goes with the outdated concept of volunteers. Get it?
The district has a revenue problem (just like Con Fire). You cannot keep dismantling the fire department and expect quality results.
@Bobby, neighbors could have been just as helpful in letting fire dept. know if there was a fire. The problem is you don’t know what type of extension could have occurred. Kitchen fire? Attic Fire? Deck fire? You never know which is why you need the pros.
The Holland Tract incident is not in the East Cypress corridor, as the city refers to the area. The lingering traffic problems (3+ hours) were not the result of the fire district running thin, but it seemed to take quite a bit of time for the collisions to be cleared after fire left the scene.
@in the know of stupidity,
We Know that you are not only an idiot but a jerk too. This country was founded on people volunteering themselves. Even in the civil war. So you are saying that anybody that volunteers for police ,fire, or rescue are fools? You must be one selfish stupid M…F…r. Why don’t you walk up to the Chief of Police in Brentwood and tell him about his reserves, then go to the Sheriff, and after that go to 75% of every fire department in this country and tell them just how important you think you are and how no one should volunteer.You must be one of those brainwashed union puppets or some blood sucker of the system. It is because of people like you that this tax will fail. Do yourself a favor and STFU so the rest of the country can have morals and pride in their communities. You are one stupid jerk.
It will never work!! That’s what happens when resources are so thin!! U don’t want to pay u will have I wait. Roll the dice. That’s what ur politicians are doing!!
@ Minion,
Well we certainly know who you are now don’t we? There are far to many adjectives to describe your identity, but we will get back to that later.
From reading your latest post, its clear to see you have the market cornered on idiocy. This country was founded on volunteers? Did you make that up yourself because history doesn’t quite reference your opinion. You might want to put on your reading glasses and revisit my posting. Let me clarify for you since you have an impairment, I stated;
1. Volunteer programs are non existent anymore in a civilized, populated and educated society.
2. We don’t live in Jumbuck, Idaho and this isn’t 1970.
3. The modern workload, mandatory training obligations, OSHA, legal issues and a host of other factors make the idea dead on arrival.
4. The days of playing fireman are OVER.
Your lame response;
1. “This country was founded on people volunteering themselves.
2. “Even in the civil war.”
You threw it into reverse and attempted to jump into the “Wayback Machine” all the way to the civil war era? Come on dude, that is LAME, even for you! I said volunteers no longer work in the modern world, in populated areas. What part of that don’t you get? And please try a little harder this time.
I never said anyone that volunteers is a fool. YOU insinuated that. I insinuated the obvious; Anyone that would volunteer in a district that is paid is a fool. Especially when it would be at their personal expense to provide services for people like you that are too cheap to pay for it. That’s the point now isn’t it?
Minion, don’t purposely confuse reserves with volunteers. They are apples and oranges.
For the record I don’t need to “walk up to” the chief of police in Brentwood or the Sheriff to get their opinions. I am friends with both Mark Evenson and David Livingston and know their positions on policing reserves.
Your comment regarding 75% of the fire departments in the country being volunteer goes to the point of just how truly ignorant you are. The fact is and will remain that over 75 percent of the nation is rural or desolate and cannot field, afford, or justify having a fulltime paid fire department. The 2000 US Census put rural areas at 79.2% and urban at 20.7%. It doesn’t take anyone real bright to understand why there is a high percentage of volunteer departments covering the 79% areas where NO ONE LIVES. Unfortunately East county is neither rural or desolate. http://www.fhwa.dot.gov/planning/census_issues/archives/metropolitan_planning/cps2k.cfm
No, if the tax fails it is due to ignorance and a lack of willingness to pay for the true cost of emergency services. You have the market cornered on both. Does us both a favor and reply again so I can factually knock you into the dirt again. You appear to have some type of patriot complex and in that regard I suggest you go back to 5th grade and take history again. Your perceptions make you look dumber than you already are.
p.s. it’s good to know that facts still piss you off! ; )
That was Awesome! Very well said! Thank you for ur support!
@ Mike,
You are welcome! Sorry, you have to read his drivel. He shows up here often under differing names trying to wrap himself in some sort of delusionary flag of patriotism. He is a well known kook and his personal frustrations have put him on the “do not disturb list” of many in east county. As you can plainly see he pines to be a firefighter (scary) and thinks he shouldn’t have to pay his fair share for services which we all require. I didn’t want to waste much more of my time on him, so I am sorry for any typos in my previous post.
If you are a firefighter it is we that thank you for your service. Hopefully east county will come together and get you some much needed funding, despite those that try so desperately to sabotage the district.
I am thank you for ur facts and comments!
Omgosh, what if there was a big emergency. Where would resources be pulled from? My friend was stuck for two hours in that Cypress/Jersey Island mess.
Minion guy is the one trying to wreck the firedistrict. Arn’t all the fireman union anyways? Who cares if they are?? They are not bloodsuckers. What a jerkkkkkk.
Interesting shooting match going on here between In’ da Know and Bob Minion. I can’t say that I agree with either of them. I prefer a paid fire dept., a reasonably well paid one at that. However to say that this isn’t 1970 and we don’t live in Jumbuck Idaho seems a little condescending to me. And frankly it doesn’t seem to bear up to the facts …see the US government website on this issue http://apps.usfa.fema.gov/census/summary.cfm. It might surprise people how much we really do depend on volunteer fire depts. in this country. And to presume that volunteer means that they are some deficient crew reminiscent of Green Acres Hooterville Fire Dept is quite inaccurate. Most volunteer fire fighters go through similar training as professional fire fighters and have to keep their training up yearly as well. Are they as good as a full time professional crew- hard to say. I have seen a fair number of full time department types who only see firefighting as a job and as a guarantee to a union negotiated salary and pension and nothing more, whereas many volunteers see it as a true service to their homes and communities. Volunteer fire departments are probably here to stay because most people are tired of paying another tax. Full time professional fire departments are probably here to stay because we live in a society that wants a safety net for everything and we want it now, no matter what it costs. My guess is the answer is somewhere in the middle. For the record I don’t know any volunteer fire fighters but I have seen them in action all over the country and have been fairly impressed, conversely I have numerous friends who are fire fighters and each of them has my utmost respect and support.
Nice try Timmy but your façade at “playing it down the middle” fell flat.
For the record, it is easy confuse the meaning of “Condescending” when you are either short or the BS gets to thick.
I’m throwing another flag-Your post was nothing but a shill.
Condescending or not, the facts are the facts.
1. This is NOT 1970.
2. East County is not Jumbuck, Idaho, NOR does it share the rural make up of 79 percent of the county where volunteer departments suffice. (Can’t quite get past that can you?)
3. You are incorrect in your assumptions of volunteer departments and paid departments.
4. There are substantial training requirements between paid and volunteer depts.
5. There are substantial hourly requirements between paid and volunteer depts.
6. There are substantial differences in equipment between paid and volunteer depts.
7. The difference between volunteer and paid is not a presumption.
Here is where you gave yourself away; “Are they as good as a full time professional crew- hard to say” Now that’s one for the books. No, Timmy they are not. (Hopefully you were kidding with your “hard to say” comment).
“I have seen a fair number of full time department types who only see firefighting as a job and as a guarantee to a union negotiated salary and pension and nothing more, whereas many volunteers see it as a true service to their homes and communities.” It’s hard for me (or anyone else) to believe you see it “down the middle”. Then you claim not to know any volunteer firefighters but yet you have some quasi opinion on how they view the job? WTF dude!?!
Stop with the act Timothy. No one that “has numerous friends who are firefighters” but “doesn’t know any volunteers” would speculate how volunteers perform the job, feel about the job, or stack up to paid professionals. Please humor me, how is it that you have “seen them (volunteers) in action all over the country…” Would you do us the honor of qualifying how you have seen them in action and what in your definition constitutes “all over the country”? You could use some help in the credibility department.
Something else for the record, you sure pretend to have a lot of insight into this for just a causal “observer”.
*2 corrections;
For the record, it is easy confuse the meaning of “Condescending” when you are either short ON FACTS or the BS gets to thick.
East County is not Jumbuck, Idaho, NOR does it share the rural make up of 79 percent of the COUNTRY where volunteer fire departments suffice.
@ dont know
The only thing that upsets me is that you have insulted half of our fire district by your comment that “no one would be foolish enough to work side by side with someone who is paid”. I now know that even the Chief of this district was a reserve at one time. Have you gone up to him and all the other firefighters who were reserves and told them what fools you think they are? You must be a total idiot to make stupid as. statements like that. You should eat your words and move out of town. If there ever is any kind of big disaster here maybe the volunteer reserve of which is the same will forgive your short bus brain.You actually show your face to the public.What left wing nut job. Have a Merry Christmas, oops, sorry, you would want Santa and his Elves to do anything for you. They volunteer against your principals.
Baby Minion,
You debate like a child. I’ve made my point(s) while you have done nothing but twist and turn. You obviously have a very limited skill set when it comes to rational thinking and conventional wisdom. Your comments further confirm what I already knew. You are clueless.
Your ramblings demonstrate that you don’t understand the difference between volunteers, paid professionals, and reserves -Nor do you comprehend the operations of emergency services. You should probably stick with subjects like Santa Claus, Elves and other fictitious characters that float around in your empty head.
Perhaps you should consider re-location. After all your roots in East County are shallow and trust me, you won’t be missed. Even people you think are your friends can’t stand you. You see, I know exactly who you are.
What I have accomplished has not been to educate you, but to get you to embarrass yourself. Consider it, mission accomplished.
Well, my Firemen in my rural town use to be volunteers and they were the BEST for us. They were also PAID. Now, when the Firemen come, they have a hard time figuring out how to draft water. I currently live in another rural town and it is 100% volunteers and they have an eta of 6 mins or less and they have an ISO of 1. That shows it does work.
@Just Saying,
I have to throw the Bullshit flag here. If you want anyone to buy into your story then post specifics. I’m betting you won’t. What town, county, state etc. The fact that you called it a town (more often rural) and not a city (urban) is a point well taken. There are many urban towns that do not merit a paid department due to low population, low structural density, low tax bases and a host of other demographics that don’t compare to east contra costa county. It is bad enough that anyone can put a spin on a specific story, but when you post such ambiguity then I’m not buying it. Especially when it flies in the face of reality.
No one gets as much day to day training as paid professionals. Certainly not “volunteers”. So ask yourself how could they be the BEST for you? Did they host the best chili cook offs? Have the shiniest fire truck in the parade? Let’s be real, how were you really in a position to judge?
In a paid department there is staff on hand 24/7 so there is a level of accountability. In a volunteer there is little to no accountability. Hard time figuring out how to draft water? Again, what town or department are you speaking of? Apparently you are unaware that there are specific standards that have to be met. No one gets a pass.
So what rural town do you live in? Your answer or non-answer most likely will tell us where your motivation is coming from. What do you have to hide?
Its simple, you get what you pay for.
Your assentation’s FAIL the smell test. Sure you are not a minion? just sayin’.
Nice try.
@Just saying, I’ll throw a second on the BS flag.
Rural most times suggests no fire hydrants. There isn’t an insurance company on the planet handing out ISO 1 in that situation.
This district isn’t rural and has hydrants. Still never made it close to a 1 either with the previous volunteers or with current professionals.
@Munion, I was once a 3 yr old as I presume you were too. We grow up and we evolve(jury is out on you though). So what’s your point with the Chief statement?
When I was in the military, troops did their own laundry and kitchen duty. Volunteers doing those chores at volunteer pay. 10 yrs ago under Bush/Cheney we evolved to paying Haliburton contractors 6 figure salaries to go to the MidEast and do that stuff for them.
Not sure where you got the left wing comment, but I don’t think Dick Cheney would appreciate it. But then your track record for fact checking under your multiple aliases here isn’t exactly stellar, now is it?
There are lots of former reserve/volunteers in the ranks of ECCFPD today. Amazing that you only “now know” that. Why don’t you engage any one of them and ask if they want to go back to a volunteer force?
And another thing…Buy a clue’s post got me thinking, since “Just Saying” posted about drafting from a static water supply and then went on to suggest an ISO rating of 1, then things aren’t exactly adding up.
Here is what I found from the ISO website itself. 40 percent of the rating is based on firehydrants, ie; the availability of water supply. If Just Saying lives in a rural area, the odds of a good water supply are compromised. (probably why he brought up the necessity of drafting).
50 percent of the rating is on the department itself-including all equipment. I guess your no name volunteer department has state of the art equipment and brand new fire pumpers? Hard to believe in a rural setting with no real tax base.
The remaining 10 percent has to do with dispatch and alarms, and we know in a rural setting you only have state of the art dispatch systems. What were they again?
http://www.iso.com/Products/Public-Protection-Classification-Service/Fire-Suppression-Rating-Schedule-FSRS-manual-for-PPC-grading.html
Just sayin your comments don’t add up. Want to take another swing?
Really?
Why don’t you two but buddies (clueless and don’t know) tell everyone how all this needed new equipment and six figured salaries for the perfect union puppet firefighter are going to continue to be paid for. You sound like a section 8 who didn’t get their check on time. Everyone knows this is a lobbyist site for the great social plan. When this new tax that no one in the public knows how much and what for fails, how the district that still owes millions upon millions of dollars to a retirement fund that it short paid the last ten years will continue to pay?
After that answer, tell all us laymen out here what you are going to do when the district is down to three stations and will not accept reserves or any other funding solution?
Then answer when the district can’t pay the millions upon millions of dollars it owes to the retired firefighters and shuts down another station where the money will come from?
Finally, when the amount of money the district has over spent the last ten years catches up to a point where there are no stations because all the money the district has must go to the retirement debt first for these underpaid professionals that retire at 50 years old and get medical for life while spiking their last years, you can educate all of us how you will take care of that little problem?
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Bob Minion,
I’m not quite sure why anyone is wasting time with you. Have you been burned by the district or a firefigher somehow and now want to play some kind of foolish game to get even? My view of your opinions is you aren’t the sharpest tool in the shed, overshadowed by sour grapes towards our government. We must all be liberals in your mind because we want a better fire department. That literally makes no sense.
This district is doomed with all the back door deals and no transparency. Anyone that puts more money into it mind as well flush it down the toilet. Why ? because of pigheaded people like you two good buddies. Either you two are part of the union puppet machine lobbying or firefighters who think the world owes you and your better that the next person. With attitudes like you two, this tax will be no brain failure. Throw some more stupid swayed statistics that are useless when you spend more than you take in.
Talk about fools, here is your sign.
4 rants in the span of 7 minutes? LOL That’s pretty much the definition of coming unhinged, don’t you think?
Mark, it’s unfortunate you can’t show yourself at public meetings to run your mouth the way you act here. That would provide some level of honesty. But instead you act one way online and then play pretty boy in public. Gotta keep up appearances, right?
Let’s address this wacked out down-is-up rant of yours.
Some of us recognize that the fire district is improperly funded due to short sighted formulas set in place by AB8 in the late 1970s. I don’t recall once seeing you acknowledge or in any way address this FACT.
There are a few ways to approach it. Some viable, some not so. Some would probably take many years. Namely, going to Sacramento and revamping the property tax formulas. To funnel more to the fire department means someone else taking from the pie will have to lose. That sets up an extended battle that would last years.
The fire department doesn’t have years. Come November of 2014 when the federal grant runs out, absent a supplemental, this fire district will be forced to cut services in half of what they are today. That’s fine as long as you figure you won’t ever need the service. The selfish people(check a mirror) are banking on the belief they will never need to call for an engine or have a medical or a car accident that requires extraction or any one of the number of vital, life saving services that the FD provides. Nobody plans to have an emergency.
I would venture to guess the majority of the voting public in East County wants a professional fire fighting department, for a host of reasons if they are given all the information. Information such as; response times would increase drastically and insurance rates will quite likely rise well above any proposed parcel tax.
Much have what has been posted on this topic is common sense. Amazing that you struggle so to accept the obvious. Volunteer departments are slower in response, have less training, result in higher homeowner insurance premiums and put more risk to life and limb for both the fire fighters and the public. All of this is obvious. Many, many, many links to pertinent information, articles and studies have been offered in support. You continue to choose willful ignorance on these facts.
Today(or apparently last night) you went off on some rant about 6 figure salaries. Again showing how out of touch with the facts you are. ECCFPD fire fighters do not make 6 figure salaries. Been explained to you many times. Why do you continue to spread these lies?
Pension spiking has been addressed. Retirement rates have been adjusted. In other words, the fire fighters have for years made sacrifices, including giving up raises and even taking wage hits What sacrifice have you made, Mark? From that million dollar home on waterfront property you live in. If someone reads your schtick here, one would get the impression that 50 cents a day a parcel tax might impose upon you will be putting you in the streets. Fire fighters do not retire at 50 with 90% of their salaries. Period. You call that crap you’re posting honest dialog?
Unless you paid CASH for your home, I’m assuming you have a mortgage. You pay for it over time. Pensions work the same way. Been explained to you multiple times. You don’t seem to be able to grasp even the basics.
Finally, to this “Socialist” line you so like to us. Some of us recognize the facts and are not engaged in some blind ideological rant. We see that the department is underfunded, through no fault of the people currently managing it. We can step up and fix this problem with a temporary fix or we can let it fall apart and let chaos ensue next year with a dangerously low staff/coverage situation. The Feds are not likely to save our butts this time.
So while some of us are willing to PAY for the service provided, it is YOU who insists that someone step in and give you added services that you are NOT willing to pay for. And you call others the “Socialists”?
You really don’t have a g’damn clue about what you’re talking about or the terms you are using, do you?
Whatever the source of this irrational pension envy of yours, you really should get a grip. Your belittling of public safety employees who put their lives on the line for you is disgusting. These people receive those benefits as deferred compensation. They don’t deserve to be talked down to by some rich, punk-ass coward who goes through life thinking a lower social class of people are there to be walked on and abused for their entertainment.
It’s time for you to step up. Get over your short man complex and start acting like an adult. If you’ve got viable and equitable solutions, let’s hear them. But it they only involve you getting a pass while the rest of the world takes one on the chin for your selfish benefit, then don’t waste the keystrokes.
Deepwater,
Bob Minion has snapped like a thin mint. You might want to leave him alone because it looks like he is over the edge. Hope he can chill out for a while. That kind of tantrum is usually put on by small children who didn’t get a certain lollipop they wanted. It is difficult for me to believe he is actually an adult. Maybe he isn’t. Kids do get on the computer when mom and dad are away.
@ Minion by any other multiple names and personalities,
Here is your sign; Posting 4 times 10 minutes or less = your pubescent frustrations coming to a head. (My goodness man, there’s nothing that screams out “batshit crazy” like posting in a rage pattern). Very entertaining!
Now that I have once again pulled your string, let me address your latest batch of drivel.
I would assume that Fire equipment from pumpers to air gear, gets some pretty hard use. When it wears out like anything it becomes less reliable. Even your former partner in crime Kris Hunt with the anti-tax club (CCTPA) couldn’t stop whining about how there was no money to replace aging equipment. Assumedly in your make believe world things don’t wear out. You would be wrong. There you go again with the “six figured” salaries. We are still talking about East County right? According to a recent article in the CCTimes; “East Co. Costa Fire Dist. Firefighters earn the least. The basic firefighter earned $54,904. (for the record that is a low FIVE figure salary). Once again you would be wrong.
Regarding the future retirement liability it appears you really don’t know much. Our East Co. firefighters are part of a much larger retirement pool that spreads out and recoups their investments and payouts over time. It is how most retirement systems operate (this has been explained to you numerous times) but apparently you don’t understand the concept. You have played on the public’s fears with that card however it is nothing but smoke and mirrors. The overall debt continues to be reduced as the economy improves. So again, you would be wrong.
This district cannot operate with just three firestations, but that may be the path to a solution. That scenario would lead to an unacceptable level of response which may be the only way to demonstrate the need for proper funding. If not, the district would be on a path (one way or another) to dissolution. This would set a process in place to create a properly funded district if continued emergency services are desired. If not we will all see how long we will last without an organized fire department. Although we have already been over it, due to current standards, volunteers are not an option here. Period.
Your infatuation (jealousy) with a retirement system that you don’t understand has become boorish. Attempting to suggest that firefighters retire at age 50 is disingenuous. While that is the age they are eligible, the fact remains the majority cannot and do not retire at that age. It is part of a formula which allows and encourages firefighters to retire before they can no longer safely perform their duties. Face it, firefighting is a physical job that takes quite a toll on the human body after years of job performance. Without a retirement program, you would have people working to the point of injury which then turns into a bigger burden on the tax payer. That’s right, a tax free retirement disability. (It’s no surprise that you didn’t think that part through).
I’m not sure how or where you have dreamt up your accusations about “back door deals and lack of transparency”. It’s time for you to unloosen that tin foil hat of yours a few clicks or come up with some actual examples of your conspiracy theories.
You call me (and others) “pigheaded”, when it is you that’s stuck on stupid. (Your repeated rants confirm this to be true).
My advice to you is stop whining and pay attention. I am not your enemy. Facts, Statistics, Frustration, Denial, Envy, Hypocrisy and your low IQ are your enemy.
@minion
It’s medical fact that mental illness, particularly depression, strongly manifests and becomes especially difficult to cope with during the holiday season.
You are showing classic signs. There are resources out there to help you. Just have to reach out.
Contra Costa Mental Health Services
925-957-5150
The phone number really ends in 5150? Someone has a sense of humor.
Isn’t it obvious? Around 10:30 last night someone ate a big ‘ol bowl of Krazy!!!!
Probably poured from a box of Don Flook Krazy O’s.
Just saying……………
Ah com on boys, look at all the responses.You puppets are so easy to get a reaction from.The truth really does hurt when you live in a fantasy world.Stan makes me laugh.He had to post three times to get over the truth. Dump sh.. in the don’t know had to write a book but couldn’t answer the simple questions of what the district needs to solve it’s problems.What a bunch of puppets for the people who are really running the district into bankruptcy.If the best you can do is just hard nose about others and not stick to the subject, you obviously do not have a clue even if you buy one.
Mental “Minion”
Awwwww, poor thing. Did those big scary words and inconvenient details upset you?
Since my fact laden comments are too much for you comprehend, I’ll make it a little easier for a simpleton like you.
The district only has one problem (not problems). It’s a lack of revenue.
Unfortunately, you are stuck on stupid, therefor it becomes more of an issue beyond your ability to comprehend.
Mr. Minion,
I posted a response to 3 different poster because they all caught my interest . It seems to me that you are relishing the attention, even though it is negative in nature. That make you a narcissist. (You might want to look it up). You should be embarrassed by your behavior if not your perspective. Denial will only get you so far. This is where the Mental Health department could help you. Yours is a cry for help.
I enjoyed reading in da know’s post. If you didn’t see that he countered your conjecture and exposed your bias, then his or her comments may have gone over your head.
You really should take advantage of the mental health number buy a clue supplied for you.
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