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Brentwood: Three Injured in Head on Collision on Highway 4

by ECT

At 5:53 pm, emergency personnel arrived on scene to a head on collision that injured three patients and shut down Highway 4 between Sand Creek Road and Lone Tree Way. The accident occurred as the driver in a sedan crossed over the center line and striking an SUV.

As crews arrived on scene, they first had to secure the road to ensure safety. They used vehicles to shut down the roads and began working on patient care with mechanical tools as one patient was trapped.

Chris Helton of Brentwood was in the vehicle immediately behind the accident and witness the accident and observed crews working the incident. She was stuck on scene for over an hour as crews blocked off the roads and had to provide a witness statement to Highway Patrol.

“Driving behind the car, there was some erratic movement prior to the accident. It was almost mini-swerves so I took my foot off the gas to back off, then it swerves to the other side and accident happened. Instinctively I slammed on the breaks and it was surreal like did that just happened,” said Helton.

She explained how the driver of the sedan had a “hot belly” and crews worked to get the victim of scene as fast as possible while ensuring safety while the driver of the SUV climbed out of the vehicle on his own, but later complained of  shoulder and arm injuries.

Helton explained how this incident reinforced just how quickly lives can change just by observing it happen.

“The impact it (the accident) had on me was just how quickly everything in life can change for those people involved. Just the smallest slip. I am really curious what happened in that car and what made the person to swerve. It didn’t just hurt her, but the passenger, the other vehicle, all the people in traffic. It effects so many lives,” said Helton. “We share the road, so we need to take responsibility for what we are doing and ensure we are driving safely and pay attention to what is around us.”

According to the Battalion Chief report, one patient had “major” injuries and had to be flown by CalStar helicopter to John Muir Trauma Center, while two patients with “moderate” injuries were transported by ground to local hospitals.

The California Highway Patrol is investigating the incident.

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Photos provided by Chris Helton who was a witness to the incident.

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Barbara DuMont Jul 15, 2013 - 9:33 am

all it takes is just on second of inattention. For some reason people just don’t understand that driving a car is more than getting in and pressing the gas petal. Slow down, pay attention to your surroundings, drive beyond the hood of the car, put the cell phone down, etc.

Troy Jul 15, 2013 - 10:43 am

Probably texting or dialing!!! People your car is not a phone booth!! PLEASE HANGUP AND DRIVE!!!!!

Lori Jul 15, 2013 - 10:48 am

Swerving in traffic is always almost from texting while driving. Put the cell phones down, dammit! I see it everyday in Brentwood parking lots, surface streets (especially down Balfour approaching the HHS campus). Let’s also remember to pull over when there are sirens and emergency vehicles on the road. Consider this: What if they were on their way to your house, to save your loved ones?

chris cm Jul 15, 2013 - 12:32 pm

Every day I see someone run a red light while on their phone. It just goes to show you: Darwin was right.

Elnora Jul 15, 2013 - 12:52 pm

I pray everyone is okay. Sometimes I see the police on their phones too, (in Brentwood) what a good example they are setting. I just want to pull them over and give them a ticket.

ECVsBrother Jul 15, 2013 - 8:03 pm

I have wondered why Brentwood with all the development along the bypass built a lousy two lane road knowing it needed to be more and Oakley with much less development gets a full on freeway. Something is wrong in Brentwood. Maybe Bone-Wood can chime in why the bypass in his town is a joke. This part of the bypass needs a full freeway not patch job like they are doing now. How many more accidents will it take to fulfill what the city left out?

Mema Kathi Jul 15, 2013 - 9:43 pm

The City of Brentwood has no control over Highway 4 or the Bypass. It is a state highway under the jurisdiction of CalTrans and the Highway Patrol with funding coming from State bond measures and Federal transportation funding. You comments directed to the City of Brentwood and Mayor Taylor are inappropriate.

Penny Smith Jul 16, 2013 - 12:51 pm

I complained to the city that this was going to kill people back in 2005 or 6 when they built it that way! I told them they were going to kill people! I hope this designer was fired! There have been too many deaths and hurt people on this stretch! Brentwood! They act like they have all millionaires here!

Barbara DuMont Jul 16, 2013 - 2:09 pm

The City of Brentwood did not build this. The Highway 4 Bypass Authority did.

ECVsBrotherfromanothermother Jul 16, 2013 - 6:41 pm

Mema, you are acting like my big bro. Where does it say Mayor Taylor in my comment? Are you my long lost sister from the same mother as my brother?
Big bro always has to have the last word. But he keeps coming back for more because he knows I have great comments. Bro, Freeway in Oakley and Highway in Brentwood. Oakley freeway built after Brentwood death trap. Go figure why. The point is its wrong and backwards. Keep studying bro you may make fifth grade. You have the mentality and IQ as those same people destroying their own city in Oakland.

B-Wood Jul 17, 2013 - 1:00 am

ECV’s brotherwhatever,

You are such a child. It is obvious to everyone here that you have a very tormented (and delusional)l mind. For your own sake, channel that anger and frustration into something positive. You are seriously a heartbeat away from snapping like a twig. What is it exactly that drove you over that proverbial cliff? Yours appears to be a problem with reality and the list of your inferiority complexes is a long one.

Woodyrgr Jul 21, 2013 - 7:01 am

Your comments are stupid and ignorant. Learn to speak and write English correctly.

Penny Smith Jul 16, 2013 - 12:58 pm


ECV Jul 15, 2013 - 10:25 pm

@ ECV’s brother,

Careful there little buddy, your crazy is showing. You really don’t know the difference between a Freeway, Highway and a BYPASS do you? Since you can’t grasp the simplist of concepts it comes as no wonder that you actually believe that individual cities themselves control State Routes, Freeways or Highways.

Just one more example of your inbred ignorance, punctuated by you petty nature. Well, at least you didn’t use your usual retoric of your constitutional rights somhow being violated, or how our forefathers fought and died for our children’s right to use that bypass!

Your stupidity has become boorish.

The only “joke” around here is you.

Matt Jul 16, 2013 - 8:59 am

That was me in the silver escape. I was just telling my son the day before of the danger of this narrow part of
Lucky to be alive.

Penny Smith Jul 16, 2013 - 12:55 pm

Happy for you! God Bless! Many have died on that road and I warned them years ago when I first laid eyes on that stretch between Home Depot and Balfour, I said people are going to die here and they did! Emailed it to them!

Barbara DuMont Jul 16, 2013 - 2:06 pm

Sorry but its not the road, its the drivers!!!

Teri Shinn Jul 16, 2013 - 9:30 am

Ultimately, fault lies upon the driver of the car that crossed over into the other lane. Many things need change in society. Lets just all slow down, pay attention and hope for the recovery of those involved and be very grateful to those that are trained to help us when in need. All of the dedicated individuals in the service and rescue field. Finger pointing in every direction does no one any good. Become involved and you will better understand that things don’t get corrected overnight. As taxpayers we have our opportunities to vote and many times those that do the most complaining don’t even do that so become involved and hope that enough people do to make a difference when it comes to city and state officials and lawmakers. Patient is a virtue. Be glad for what we do have and feel blessed to have life each and every day:)

Penny Smith Jul 16, 2013 - 12:57 pm

Do you lie to yourself a lot?

Teri Jul 16, 2013 - 4:33 pm

Penny based on all your responses I will hope for your sake that you take the time to breathe and calm down. You have literally responded in a negative fashion to each and every persons comments. It takes a lot of energy to be that way. Negative energy. Take care girl:)

B-Wood Jul 17, 2013 - 12:49 am

Penny, do you live in a world where you actually think people build/design dangerous roads on purpose? Have you ever considered it may actually be the fault of drivers behaving badly? Maybe limited funding? BINGO. If you need a reality check why don’t you glance at the driver next to you that is busy talking on their cell phone, texting, speeding, or cutting you off. It won’t be hard to spot them.

Teri Jul 17, 2013 - 10:26 am

Thank you B-wood. She definitely needs to think outside of the box and realize one of the worst issues going on out on our roadways are the drivers and their impatience, we got by without texting/cell calls for years, and lets not forget they are roadways not race tracks. Which is why I said what I did about patience. In many cases practicing patience would lead to less fatalities. As far as her comment do I lie to myself? No penny, but I do live in a realistic world!! Everyone have an awesome day, be safe out there:) As guns n roses sing “welcome to the jungle”

Penny Smith Jul 16, 2013 - 12:50 pm

I complained to the city that this was going to kill people back in 2005 or 6 when they built it that way! I told them they were going to kill people! I hope this designer was fired! There have been too many deaths and hurt people on this stretch! Brentwood! They act like they have all millionaires here!

Buy a Clue Jul 16, 2013 - 3:02 pm

You were complaining to the wrong people. Brentwood doesn’t fund or build that road. It’s a CalTrans responsibility.

It was built that way because that was all the money that was available at the time.

Medium Rare In East County Jul 16, 2013 - 8:32 pm

You are partly wrong on that…

B-Wood Jul 17, 2013 - 12:28 am

@medium rare,

No, you would be wrong. You need to a little deeper. I go right to the source to get my info, What are your sources? You always seem to have a little bit of knowledge which is a dangerous thing. Be careful about opinions and assumptions.

Medium Rare in East County Jul 17, 2013 - 1:53 pm

No I’m not.

Medium Rare In East County Jul 16, 2013 - 8:31 pm

All you need for who to blame can be found here: http://www.sr4bypass.org/

The bypass was built by the State Route 4 Bypass Authority made up of Contra Costa County, and the cities of Antioch and Brentwood. It was handed over to CalTrans after the final phase was completed.

As far as danger, it has claimed more than a few, to be expected when you allow highway speeds with only a 6inch by 1/32nd of an inch double yellow line as a barrier.

I go city until Lone Tree and get off at Lone Tree on return to avoid the chute-o-death.

Buy a Clue Jul 16, 2013 - 10:27 pm

Blame? Is that the first thing that pops into your head?

Was it built 2 lane to begin with because people didn’t want to spend the money or didn’t have the money? Simple question.

Maybe you prefer the old route and having all that traffic running down Lone Tree and Brentwood Blvd?

B-Wood Jul 17, 2013 - 12:39 am

Great point “Buy a Clue”. There are three or four people here are more about assigning blame than dealing with economic realities. Roads aren’t perfect-neither are drivers. Most wrecks are not “accidents” but are actually avoidable collisions as a result of poor driving. Want examples? Just spend 2 minutes on Vasco, Highway 4 or the bypass. Our east county roads are polluted with BAD, and discourteous drivers. Blaming it all on the roadways, cities or engineers is just plain ridiculous. The comments from the usual gang of three is predictable. It’s nothing more than denial from those that have never fully grasped what responsibility is all about. Don’t blame them, for they are children dwelling in an adult world.

Medium Rare in East County Jul 17, 2013 - 2:06 pm

I didn’t blame anyone, I was merely providing the source for the question asked above. But I didn’t state that in my post, so I can see where that would make you question it. No matter… I’m not affected, I choose to use the surface streets between Balfour and Lone Tree.

On another note…
You people really get lathered up around here over inconsequential syntax infractions and fail at demonstrating even a miniscule shred of civility or kindness … But the daily dose of vehemence in the responses provide me with countless examples to my kids and the Scouts I work with on how society has become very crass and angry. Thanks for not letting me down!!! Enjoy the day and I hope getting your pointed barbs in make you feel better. TTFN-MiiEC 🙂

ECV Jul 17, 2013 - 2:58 pm

Interesting world you live in Med. Rare in EC! I read facts and insight and you suggest they are “barbs”? I am truly sorry that most of us don’t live in your fairytale world or are able to see into your quizzical mind.
This blog, like many, is a place for telling it like it is. Apparently the truth is somehow painful for you. That in an of itself is sad.

Make no mistake, we are not angry. We are simply sick of spoon feeding the ones that come here to play games. The more I read of your “lets all sing kumbaya” together, the more transparent you become. If you are bothered by facts or just want to hold hands, then this is not the place for you.

I think you just need a hug.

Ta-Ta for now!

Buy a Clue Jul 17, 2013 - 3:44 pm

Medium Rare, that’s an off-the-rails response to a simple question. You used the word “blame” but you’re not blaming?

New one on me.

Rest of that sounds like a pity party. If I’m looking for a Miss Manners type post I’ll pick up that rag called the Times. Here I prefer facts, and no, you don’t have to sugar coat them.

Do you have an answer to the cost issue on the bypass or not?

ECV Jul 17, 2013 - 11:34 pm

Buy a clue,

Once again you nailed it. I guess some people don’t want to debate their own contrived opinions and assumptions. They are more focused on the delivery than the facts. For them it is a last ditch effort to keep some sense of relevance. Thanks for calling it like it is. That is exactly why I visit this site. Keep up the good work!

Medium Rare in East County Jul 18, 2013 - 6:07 am

You all sit around waiting for some little contrived infraction of your view of how things should be, then you pounce on posters and bash them under the guise of debate the sit around glad handing each other on how well you told them. It’s sad really. I can discuss issues, but why bother if all you do is latch on to these ridiculous little nothings of how someone worded something. Anytime you want to discuss things in a respectful tone, I’m right here. I don’t believe you have the capacity to have civil discourse on issues without the ad hominem attacks.

ECV Jul 18, 2013 - 11:49 am

Medium Rare (Mind if I call you MR from here out?)

The time has come for you to get a clue. I’m done being nice to you. If you think I have been harsh in the past then you are certainly in for a treat. Buckle up bozo because I have had enough of your “whoa is me”, I can’t discuss things here, because some of you play hardball. Maybe you are more suited for a love-in? In case you didn’t notice I don’t give a rat’s @ss about tone, so if it is too much reality for you, maybe you should step off.

The real truth is it isn’t about tone, never was. it’s about you trying to dismiss facts which others present. I’ve got news for you MR, it ain’t working for you. You come across to me as a sniveler with your panties twisted in a wad.

Grow up or go home.

Scarecrow Jul 18, 2013 - 12:57 pm

Glad I was able to help! But, I can’t keep giving you free psychological therapy for free. See you around, and be nice!

ECV Jul 18, 2013 - 5:04 pm

Scarecrow aka; Medium Rare,

I like your new name….

I could wile away the hours
Conferrin’ with the flowers
Consultin’ with the rain
And my head I’d be scratchin’
While my thoughts were busy hatchin’
If I only had a brain

I’d unravel any riddle
For any individ’le
In trouble or in pain

With the thoughts you’d be thinkin’
You could be another Lincoln
If you only had a brain

Oh, I would tell you why
The ocean’s near the shore
I could think of things I never thunk before
And then I’d sit and think some more

I would not be just a nuffin’
My head all full of stuffin’
My heart all full of pain
I would dance and be merry
Life would be a ding-a-derry
If I only had a brain

Yep, it fits you to a “T”.

You really don’t get how this works do you? Thanks for thinking you are the one dishing out the therapy…..What a rube!

If you only had a brain.

Julio-Antioch Jul 17, 2013 - 3:50 pm

This blog used to be a very nice, civil place to get information and enjoy a chat. That has come to an end and it looks like some of us will be looking for another blog. Thanks Mike, I’m sorry it got out of control.

Barbara DuMont Jul 17, 2013 - 5:15 pm

May I second that posting.

Bypass Bob Jul 17, 2013 - 10:02 pm

Mary Piepho took a lot of credit for the Bypass. Not sure if she deserved it or not, but I think she was involved in the planing. She probably has a Masters in Civil Engineering or Public Works Financing or some other relevant area of expertise.

I wonder why Supervisor Piepho didn’t work to have a safer, divided roadway given the speeds and topography involved. Since this is an important topic, perhaps she will provide some information on the issue.

It could be that there wants enough money and the decision was made to pay more later, after some motorists proved it is needed. No doubt it would have cost less to do it right the first time, but that’s not the way it works in this county.

It’s like the whole Vasco mess all over again. Sad that people have to suffer injuries and even death through this process, but that is the way it works out here. It will happen again (and again).

Mark Solonut Jul 20, 2013 - 3:15 pm

Bypass Bob/ ByPass Commuter

Shouldn’t you have posted “Demented Don from DB”? You can run but you can’t hide.

Good luck with your afflictions.

ECV Jul 17, 2013 - 11:22 pm

Mary Piepho took credit for the bypass? That’s news to me, I must have missed that. What I did see in the local Press newspapers was Mayor Bob taking credit and even signing construction beams on one of the overpasses. Here are three links (take your pick).




Piepho is on the Vasco safety project and was credited with dividing Vasco and making various safety improvements.




Once again fact trumps rhetoric …..or in your case frustration and mud slinging.

Nice try Johnny!

Medium Rare in East County Jul 18, 2013 - 6:21 am

And once again someone posts something thoughtful, and gives an opinion and the crows come out cawing and pecking in their usual hyperventilated fashion trying so desperately to show the world they’re right and save what little self-worth they might be able to conjure up from their sad and pathetic little egos. Couldn’t just say it without the condescension and mean spiritedness, could ya? 🙂 Might change my name to Scarecrow…

Bypass Bob Jul 18, 2013 - 7:49 am

Wasn’t Mary one of the four Directors and the Vice Chairman of the Hwy4 Bypass Authority that was responsible for setting policy and oversight of the entire project. I remember her campaign literature boasting of her role on the Bypass. I think it was one of her top priorities.

But if Mary now doesn’t want credit for her work on the Bypass project, so be it. Lets not pretend, however, that the County and cities have no responsibility for the road. Blaming Cal-Trans indicates that the SR4BPA that Mary once claimed to be part of, was just another wasteful government oversight board dedicated to providing campaign slogans and meeting stipends to 3 mayors and a County Supervisor.

ECV Jul 18, 2013 - 11:38 am

Bypass Bobby,

You are seriously infatuated with with supervisor Piepho as well as some bizarre need to publicly demonstrate a high level of ignorance. (Sorry Medium Rare, but “bypiss bobby” just screams stupidity).

I proved you wrong and now you want to come back for another spanking? Those are the qualities of a narcissist, a rebar bending fool and a lazy eyed jack. You would have to be one ball short of a full set not comprehend that. (My apologies again Medium Rare).

See if you can keep up and get back to the topic of this post. It’s about poor driving and/or distracted driving; “The impact it (the accident) had on me was just how quickly everything in life can change for those people involved. Just the smallest slip. I am really curious what happened in that car and what made the person to swerve. It didn’t just hurt her, but the passenger, the other vehicle, all the people in traffic. It effects so many lives,” said Helton. “We share the road, so we need to take responsibility for what we are doing and ensure we are driving safely and pay attention to what is around us.”

Key point; We need to take responsibility for what we are doing and ensure we are driving safely and pay attention to what is around us. Truer words have not been spoken.

B-Wood Jul 18, 2013 - 9:49 am

@ Bypass Bob,

It looks to me like you were trying your darndest to implicate an individual or cast some mud, in this case on Supervisor Puepho. I’m not sure what was behind your motives as you posted yet another innuendo out of the blue. The trouble is you got called on your game by ECV. Why should I or ayone believe your innuendo over what appears to be several articles that directly dispute your allegations.

i also don’t recall what you are asserting. Obviously you have some axe to grind. You point out that there are many directors on the H4 Bypass Authority and then single out Piepho for taking credit (even though it is obvious that everyone but Piepho took credit). Even if any of this mattered, which it doesn’t, what is your point? Were you actually hoping for someone…anyone to believe that the directors, including Mary Piepho actually do the engineering and design? You might want to try a different angle that doesn’t make you look so foolish.

P.S. @ Meduim Rare, once again you chime in. Please direct me to the thoughtful post, I and others may have missed it.

Was it yours where you somehow overlooked a purposeful attack done with assumption, innuendo and projection?

Was it the reply that ECV presented with research, fact and accountability that YOU claim to seek?

Or better yet, was it your own hypocritical post where you refereed to others as “sad”, “pathetic”, “crows”, and “little self worth”. “I guess YOU couldn’t say it without the condescension and mean spiritedness could ya?” Speaking of “crows” how does it taste?

Medium, your credibility has bottomed out.

Scarecrow Jul 18, 2013 - 1:01 pm

Just calling them as I see ’em. You and ECV of all people shouldn’t have a problem with that, after all, I learned it from you! Have a great day!

B-Wood Jul 18, 2013 - 3:00 pm

Yep, you sure are a master at playing the blame game! Now you can add hypocrite to your list of skills

I too call em as I see em.

ECV Jul 18, 2013 - 5:11 pm

Thanks for the credit Scarecrow, but really you earned it yourself! B-wood has you signed, sealed and delivered!

I’m sorry to see that you have now added a little identity crisis to your list if “issues”. Maybe you should hook up with ECV’s brother. He still can’t figure himself out.

Have an insanely good day!

Julio-Antioch Jul 18, 2013 - 5:09 pm

You are all nuts!

ECVsBrother Jul 18, 2013 - 6:43 pm

Big bro,
Since you, bonewood, clueless, and now bypissbob have all your attack modes in sequence, enlighten me about the bypass. I do know that the bypass authority was made up of several people. Since it was an authority legalized by law and made the decisions for the bypass now called the tunnel of death, who is responsible for the planning and implementation of that road? Not who owns it now, but what people planned and met to make it happen ? That is what people need to know. Anyone can type Frasier, Piepho, and Talyor along with bypass 4 and get loads of information. What do you know big bro and knuckleheads that the public doesn’t know about this death trap?

ECV Jul 19, 2013 - 9:04 am

Time for you to get over your little self induced tantrums and take a time out.

it is pretty straight forward:

1. Auto accident(s) due to driver error, distracted and poor driving. (Read the post, dummy).

2. You twist it into something else: “death trap” and “tunnel of death”. How long did it take you peanut brain to make that up?

3. The kicker is you claim you know who runs the bypass & admit “anyone can type in names (Google) and get information” …..and then go off asking for information that you claimed to already have & is publicly available!

Sorry bro. You are just beating your head against the wall again. The pain will only go away if you stop. We all hope that you figure that out someday.

You have become the poster child for stupidity.

ECVsBrother Jul 18, 2013 - 6:56 pm

Sorry bypass,
I should not have included you with the real stooges that attack anything and everything here. You have some good comments. Big bro needs to answer the questions without being a fool.

ByPassCommuter Jul 19, 2013 - 1:33 pm

Given ECV’s feelings that auto collisions are not related to the safety of road design, the barriers on Vasco that Mary Piepho takes so much credit for are just a waste of money to him. The point that ECV misses is that there should be a barrier between my car and someone coming straight at me who has lost their focus.

I like how ECV digs deep and finds that Mayor Taylor shows up at ribbon cutting ceremonies. Fantastic info, but it doesn’t change the fact that ByPass Bob is correct. Mary Piepho has served on the Board of the HW4BPA since early 2005. She is currently the Chairman of the Authority and longest standing board member. http://www.sr4bypass.org/About/bod.htm

On her own website Mary Piepho boasts: I’ve made the widening and safety of Highway 4, the Highway 4 Bypass and the Caldecott tunnel expansion all top priorities. I continue to lead safety efforts on Vasco Road, including a concrete barrier –– reducing fatalities to zero. http://www.marynejedlypiepho.com/

Of course she also boasts to be a supporter of the Urban Limit Line, so one must put things politicians say on their websites into perspective.

The points that Bypass Bob and Medium Rare in EC make (at least to me) are:
1) The cities (Brentwood, Oakley, Antioch) and Contra Costa County) were greatly involved in the planning and oversight of the HWY4ByPass. Statements alleviating the City and County of any responsibility for this dangerous high speed undivided roadway are at best overstated and at worst completely misplaced.
2) Mary Piepho was very much involved in the planning and oversight of the ByPass through her role as board member, Vice Chair, and Chair of the Highway 4 ByPass Authority.
3) It is interesting and sad that Mary Piepho and the HWY4BPA failed to press for a safer HW4ByPass design that included barriers.
4) This situation seems very similar to the Vasco road situation that required multiple “re-do’s” at increased costs in order to make the road as safe as it should have been from the start. And that’s the real point, I think. Why do we continually build roads that are unsafe the moment they open? Is it a lack of funds, and is that a valid reason when history shows we ultimately take corrective action at a higher cost that building it correctly would have cost in the first place?

This small thread shows what appears to be multiple people saying they warned the City or County about the dangerous design without valid response. Supervisor Piepho clearly understands the need for barriers between lanes of high speed traffic as she has demonstrated through her efforts on Vasco Road. Yet for some reason, we built the road with no barriers. ECV wants to protect Peipho, and by extension this dangerous stretch of road. A few others argue that the cities and county have nothing to do with the roadway – they are wrong. The HW4BPA (Mary Piepho, Wade Harper, Bob Taylor, and Kevin Romick) just met this week in Martinez. http://www.sr4bypass.org/About/Agenda/SR4BPA%20Agenda%20Packet%2007-16-13.pdf

It doesn’t look like they discussed the lack of barriers on this dangerous stretch of road. It would be nice if Mary Piepho would let the public know if she feels that issue is something she and her agency can assist with, or if it is completely out of her control. My guess is she will do neither, but her friend will attack this post and others that bring forth reasonable questions and issues.

ECV Jul 22, 2013 - 10:05 pm

@ ByPassCommuter,

From the tone of your post you have a serious hang up with Mary Piepho. I can only imagine she kicked you to the curb at some point, at least that is what I have heard. After reading your post I really don’t blame her!

As for your efforts in trying to put words in my mouth and twist reality into some demented scenario it’s no wonder you dont see eye to eye with the Supervisor. Your post suggests you are out of touch and have deep seated issues.

For starters, I never said auto collisions are not related to the safety of road design. I also never said barriers are a bad thing. What I do take issue with is you suggesting that you are owed a barrier between you and everyone else driving on a two lane road. Apparently you are unaware that hundreds of two lane undivided roads make up the majority of our east county roads.

You made the mistake of insinuating that I “dug deep” to do a simple “Google” search on the recent H4 Bypass press articles. You were wrong. Then you went on to post and quote several links, meetings, websites and campaign literature that could only be accomplished by YOU “digging deep”. I call that hypocrisy.

You obviously tried your best to piecemeal tidbits of information together into an analysis to suit your needs. Too bad you had to make it up and got the details wrong. It didn’t take much deep digging for me to find out you were wrong; Piepho is not the longest standing member of the Bypass authority (Glover is) and the Bypass was designed long before Piepho was involved or elected. You couldn’t even get the meeting location(s) right! (They don’t meet in Martinez).

Next you posted something about the Urban Limit Line when in fact Piepho has approved almost no new development during her tenure as Supervisor. I guess you missed that fact while doing your pointless research.

The point is that any elected or regional body utilizes professionals (engineers, planners, project managers, etc.) to do the technical work on projects. 0nly a fool would assume the directors micro manage and would tell the experts how to do their jobs. I believe your comments placed you in the “fool” category.

You might come across as a little more sincere if you did some real homework. Attend a H4 bypass meeting (they are held in Antioch) or pick up the phone and contact one of the people you listed that serve on the Bypass Authority. That is what rational and concerned people do.
Ohhhhhh, that’s right “Rational” is not one of your qualities-nor is your ability to form a rational question.
Piepho has probably already dismissed you and your juvenile school boy antics… which is the only reason you posted here in the first place.

Medium Rare in East County Jul 23, 2013 - 1:11 pm

Bwaaahahahahaha. ECV gets pwnd by Bypass!!! So much for trying to be nice, respectful, and kind in your posts. If you had, maybe people would be more willing to have open discussions with you. Sad little old feeble ECV, suffering your little man complex alone in your basement! Anything you have to say from this point on is even less meaningful than before, which is already at zero.
Go ahead with your usual retorts and name calling… I won’t hear you 😀

B-Wood Jul 23, 2013 - 7:46 pm

@Medium Rare

That’s funny. My take on it is ECV put Bypass in a ditch. Did Bypas not even read the links he posted??? Did you Medium rare? They contradicted everything he posted.

You are indeed a tool.

Both Bypass and Medium Rare are dumber than a bag of rocks. No offense to the rocks!

Bypass stupidity Jul 23, 2013 - 8:18 pm

You sound like you are about 12 years old. Not sure if that is the saddest part of your post or the fact that you think Don(aka ByPassCommuter and aka Bypass Bob) is here to have an open discussion about anything.

That earlier one was a classic Desperate Don post. Heavy innuendo and close with a “please don’t pick on me” line.

How pathetic do you have to be to be waging a 5 year long smear campaign on Supervisor Piepho? Looking for any issue anywhere and twist it into making it about her? He mentions her name 8 times in a single post.

Can you say “obsessed”?………There, I knew you could.

Suuurrre Don uses the bypass on his commute from Discovery Bay to Livermore and I’m the Pope! I’ve found myself behind him more than once in that commute in that silver Acura TL he drives, so I’m quite sure the route he takes.

By the way, who buys property in Disco Bay claiming they fear 2 lane roads with highway speeds? There are 18 miles of it stretching east, about as much going south, and at least 6 or 7 miles of it to the west. Not to mention that daily commute over Vasco.

Believable? Sure!! If you like being gullible.

Since when are elected officials supposed to second guess traffic and civil engineers? Or maybe you’re onboard with Donny and think the Pols make the decisions on road design? Can you point out for us which part of that road doesn’t meet state or federal guidelines? Because you seem to be supporting the nonsense with the straight man act. Surely you can tell us what you know that all the traffic professionals don’t.

The sr4bypass oversight committee was formed in the late 80s. The master plan on the very website you earlier posted a link to has a map with a date right on it that says August 2004. Piepho took her elected seat in Jan. 2005 and a position on the bypass committee around the same time

But nice try. Donnyboy likes to play on people’s lack of knowledge about the history. What’s your excuse?

Just say no to internet stalkers like Don and his new sidekick Medium Rube(cue the whining).

ECV Jul 23, 2013 - 9:09 pm


Are you blind, ignorant or stupid? I vote all of the above.

You just proved that you were able to sink below no credibility what-so-ever. You didn’t need a luck of help from me. You and Bypass can’t get out of your own way! Hahahaha!

If you thin I got “pwnd” by Bypass then you are a joke and a plant.

Apparently you are not aware of how stupid you made yourself look! You won’t hear me? Yeah right!
Hahahahahahaaaaa! What a dumbass.

Thanks for exposing yourself troll! You just got “pwnd”.

Mark Solonut Jul 19, 2013 - 6:55 pm


You can’t fool me! You are probably that Don Flynt character from DB. Still having trouble prosessing things and obsessesed. Some things never change.

Try pounding sand. I hear it helps.

ECVsBrother Jul 23, 2013 - 8:11 pm

Big Bro you seem very irritated at the facts about the responsible politicians who created the bypass and other roads under the bypass authority here in our county. Maybe your personal problems are affecting reality. Sounds like you got a thing for Piepho by your irate attack to discredit the truth from the public. Looks like your recruitment of another stooge M Nuts has proved his insanity by blurting out of a random name he wants to spontaneously blame to change focus on the real issue of a deadly road authorized by a transportation authority that is ran by certain local politicians. Bypass puts out some accredited facts with names and links to back up the statements. All you have big bro is another example of your inept attempts to attack others. I will believe the facts by the more civil commenter’s rather than the rant by you and the nuts fool. The example of Piepho taking credit for the need to separate Vasco and ignoring the dangerous bypass without a separation is very compelling. The entire situation cries for an overview of the possible mistakes made by the bypass authority when pushing political agendas. The authority should relook at the highway 4 bypass as soon as they can and correct the deadly situation that exists. If the state now owns that roadway maybe it should never have been transferred the way it was handed over by the bypass authority led by Piepho.

ECV Jul 23, 2013 - 9:19 pm

@ECV’s brother,

You are so predictable. They have medication and professional help for people like you. You just need to confront your issues. It’s very apparent that you have a small man’s complex. You obviously cannot digest a weblink and walk away with what everyone else sees. I’ll bet that has been plaguing you your whole miserable life. In fact I know it has.

You have issues with the truth and reality that much is crystal clear.

It must be frustrating for you to have your ass handed to you several times a week.

How’s that working out for you?

Hahahahaaaaa! Stupid clown!

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