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Editorial: ECV Group Continues to Mislead Public on Fire District Funding Plan

by ECT

Earlier this month, we highlighted a plan by the East County Voters for Equal Protection (ECV) that we believe is neither realistic nor legal. Still, they continue to tout their plan and mislead the public.

This week, they announced the endorsement of the Contra Costa Taxpayers Association, a likely partnership due to the groups anti-tax stance. Here is the statement provided by Jack Weir, President of the Contra Costa Taxpayers Association:

 “Since 1937 our organization has promoted “good government at affordable cost” in our county.  While traditionally much of our focus has been on fiscal issues, we are mindful of the importance of high quality community services and are alarmed at the dire situation in the East Contra Costa Fire Protection District.  The  lack of adequate facilities and staffing has caused an unacceptable drop in emergency response times, threatening the life and safety of residents and those passing through the area.

“Although some aspects of the district’s fiscal circumstances are shared by other fire agencies in the county, its low tax rate is a fundamental problem, which can only be addressed by a more fair and equitable allocation method.  The recently formed grass roots citizens group East County Voters for Equal Protection (ECV) has devised a reallocation methodology that will solve this long-time challenge and allow restoration of services to an acceptable level.  Further, the method will only require a modest contribution from those agencies in the area that rely on the district for critical emergency response.  The reallocation proposal is feasible and requires only the political will to accomplish.

“CoCoTax fully supports ECV in this effort, and encourages all elected officials and voters in the area to join ECV in resolving this issue,” said Weir’s prepared statement.

The endorsement should be taken with a grain of salt. The Taxpayers Association has fought previous attempts by both East Contra Costa Fire Protection District and Contra Costa Fire Protection District for supplemental funding and thus has further put lives in danger by killing taxpayer measures on public safety.

What the public should understand is that the ECV plan will never happen. It’s fools gold that fire service will be improved without some sort of supplemental funding until a long-term fix can be made in Sacramento.

If you are taking funds from 30-agencies, you are then putting 30-agencies in a position to be underfunded who then hypothetically would then need to go for a tax of their own to bring their funding back up.

It is our opinion this plan is intentionally aimed at confusing the public in an effort to kill any future tax attempt.  Both the city managers of Brentwood and Oakley agree.

Furthermore in a March 14  email by Oakley City Manager Bryan Montgomery to an Oakley resident, he stated the likelihood of the ECV plan moving forward while stating the harm they are doing to confusing the public.

Per his email, he stated the following:

A re-work of the 1% property tax is a worthy ideal, but as proposed it would have about a .00001% chance of ever happening.  What it might do is lead voters to believe it is a viable option and then harm another more viable and financially adequate funding measure.  As I’ve told Bryan Scott, the negotiations of the reallocation should come after this measure, as neither on their own will solve the problem, but together they might.

Still, ECV’s Bryan Scott and Hal Bray (co-chairs) continue to misinform the public and now apparently the Contra Costa Taxpayers Association are joining them in this mission to stir mass confusion while the ECCFPD is set to begin polling.

ECV summarizes their plan in three paragraphs:

This program calls for the 30 or so government agencies who now receive property tax funding within the fire district to shift a total of $7.8 million of the $154 million of property taxes collected within the ECCFPD jurisdiction to the fire district.

The ECV program would follow procedures outlined in the California Revenue and Taxation Code and elsewhere. These funds would allow the district to permanently open and staff three additional fire stations, with no additional taxes imposed on residents. The current special assessments appearing on tax bills would not be effected.

The ECV program calls for the agency recipients of the ad valorem property tax to voluntarily shift a small portion (5.2 percent) of their property tax allocation percentage to the fire district. District taxpayers would not be asked to pay any additional taxes. Phasing in the program over a number of years would mean that no current budgets would be cut, and the reallocated amount would be less than the expected growth in government revenues. No current budget expenditures would be affected, but each agency’s funding would grow by a smaller amount.

Contra Costa County Administrator David Twa finally put his foot down in February saying the plan was not going to happen. Scott, in an email acknowledged Mr. Twa’s statement, then ignores it. Furthermore, David Twa provides six-points as to why the plan is not feasible.

The email chain is below:

Mr. Twa’s bluntness was even noted in a follow up email by Mr. Scott highlighting the words of Mr. Twa saying “it’s not going to happen”. Here is a copy of that email from Scott to Twa:

Hi David-

Thank you for taking the time to talk with me yesterday. Even though it was a brief, 15-minute meeting, we accomplished a lot, and it was clear that you had read-up on our proposal and spent time preparing for our meeting.

Your opening comment of “It’s not going to happen” really cut to the chase and set the tone for the meeting.

The structural funding problem faced by the ECCFPD has gotten progressively worse over the last twelve years as the East County area has experienced rapid and significant growth. As this growth continues so too will the disparity between fire district service needs and property tax funding.  This problem will not fix itself.

And so our group has been reaching out to members of Brentwood and Oakley city councils, to members of the board of supervisors, to fire district executives, to leaders of community organizations, and to industry consultants, all in an attempt to find a solution to the problem. We are open to hearing from all parties on this issue.

Thanks again for your time.

–Bryan

In a February 29 email, Mr. Twa laid out six reasons why the plan would not work. Here is what was stated:

—–Original Message—–
From: David Twa
Sent: Monday, February 29, 2016 4:49 PM
To: Bryan Scott
Cc: Bob Campbell
Subject: ECV Fire District Funding Plan

Bryan – thanks for the opportunity to talk with you this afternoon about your proposal to have the Property Tax Reallocated to provide more funding for East County Fire.

As I advised you:

1. your plan would result in approximately $971,000 being taken from the Contra Costa County General Fund, and a total of over $1.2 Million from all the County funded Districts such as Library and Flood Control Districts.

2. Such a reduction in funding for the County would require the County to back fill this loss from other County funded Departments, or to look at possible future reduction in services.

3. The County has already reduced the number of ConFire stations we support from 30 down to 24 during the “Great Recession” and if we had an extra $1.2 Million I would certainly recommend that the County first look to restore one of these closed stations before we would look to fund other agencies.

4. My understanding of the law is that the School Districts are prohibited from transferring their Property Tax to any other agency, and since you indicated that the School Districts make up 59% of the dollars you are requesting, the net effect is that at best you are likely to only find a few small agencies who could afford to transfer their tax even if they were willing to do so.

5. Unfortunately, your proposal is not likely to produce the kind of revenue you are trying to generate, while at that same time you create a disincentive for people to support any ballot measure designed to increase revenue for East County Fire.

6. Finally, you asked if other taxing entities authorized the transfer, would the County Board recommend those transfers to the County Auditor. I am not certain that it requires the County Board to do that, and I suggest that if you are continuing to go down this path, you work with the County Auditor to make certain that you follow all the correct procedures.

Let me know if you have any questions. Thanks

Although we have stated our opposition of the EVC plan, here is a list of comments and statements made by leaders at the County and City levels through a series of interviews or pulled from email exchanges.

Here is what Bob Campbell said regarding the Revenue and Taxation Code while also sharing the LAO:

Bob Campbell, Contra Costa County Auditor-Controller, stated the scenario being proposed by ECV is unlikely to move forward because schools are off limits and to even get a re-allocation, Districts would have to admit they have a surplus which is very subjective at best. (see Revenue and Taxation Code 99.02).

State of California Legislative Analyst Offices (LAO):
“Unlike local communities in other states, California residents and local officials have virtually no control over the distribution of property tax revenue to local governments, Instead, all major decisions regarding property tax allocation are controlled by the state. Accordingly, if residents desire an enhanced level of a particular service, there is no local forum or mechanism to allow property taxes to be reallocated among local governments to finance this improvement.

Gus Vina, the City manager of Brentwood requested the ECV group stop giving the public the impression that he supports the plan. He also acknowledges that ECV was only using a portion of a report that supports the ECV effort and excluding critical parts.

Gus VinaBrentwood City Manager, Gus Vina:
Hal and Scott.  So here we go again.  I don’t appreciate the fact you put my name in an announcement without the courtesy of letting me know it is going out.  More importantly, why are you using only a portion of the report and words that support your effort and exclude other critical parts of the report?  For example, why did you not say that the task force supports and is exploring a tax measure?  It is clear to me you took that out of context to make it appear as though I support ECV’s effort to reallocate property taxes, which I have made clear to you that I do not.  I guess I will need to go very public to clear the record and make sure the community is not mislead

I kindly ask you again not to use the task force report, and more specifically my name, without at least the courtesy of a notice to me and I encourage you to provide the entire report’s recommendation rather than portions that suit your needs.

Meanwhile, Oakley City Manager Bryan Montgomery says the ECV effort would

Oakley City Manager, Bryan Montgomery;

Bryan MontgomeryBryan (Scott):

I have hesitated to jump in to all of these emails, but I wanted to reiterate what I mentioned to you via email a week or two back. The grassroots aspects of what you are doing is admirable, and addressing the problems with the 1% allocation is a great idea, BUT the Fire District is in immediate need of financial support and the 1% property tax allocations at this point will only hurt the probably ballot measure that would provide the more immediate funding (taxpayers could think that the reallocation is the full answer and will vote down the measure).

That ballot measure would not likely support all of the financial needs and AFTER its passage the 1% reallocation discussion would be prudent to help fill the gap.  Also, the 1% reallocation (if ever achieved) would only fill a small portion of the need.   If your primary concern is the long-term viability of the Fire District, we need a parcel tax measure NOW and the reallocation measure after.

I also mentioned in my email to you that you are SIGNIFICANTLY underestimating the reallocation process.  The 1% allocation is a zero sum game and persuading the “losers” in that process to agree will take a significant amount of time, if ever achieved. Further, the minimal amount that the “losers” may concede to is no where near the revenues needed by the District. Though, as I stated above, that amount could be helpful to the District to supplement what the ballot measure will not be able to fill.

Again, thank you for your efforts to help the District, but I urge you to be cautious and to not unintentionally damage the financial support a ballot measure would provide. (I don’t wish to engage in an email dialogue on this, but wanted to re-state my strong feelings on the matter)

Regards,
Bryan H. Montgomery

Elected officials who have been targeted of the ECV Group:

Oakley Mayor, Keven Romick;
“I have severe reservations about any process that would take any monies away from cities and until I see what this voluntary plan is I will remain suspect to their success,” said Romick.

Brentwood Council & Fire District Commissioner Steve Barr;
Steve Barr“Based on the information I have this plan has very little chance of meeting the requirements of the revenue and taxation code. First of all and most importantly no shifting of property tax can come from school districts based on state law. That being said any calculations for other agencies based on schools contributing are wrong and would need to be recalculated,” said Barr. “Secondly once you remove school districts from the calculation, approximately 50% of the 1%, the amount required from the remaining agencies would most likely violate state law that requires any transfer of property tax to another agency in the same Tax Rate Area to not negatively effect the services provided by the transferring agency. I can assure you that in Brentwood giving away between $1.2m-$1.5m would have an effect on the services that we provide.”

County Supervisor Mary Piepho:

piepho 2014Bryan, Thanks for keeping me in the loop and please continue to do so.

To be clear I don’t “support” you and your groups plan and wish to make that clear right now.  I believe that there are elements of your vision that have some long-term merit if handled appropriately and by the right people, but I simply don’t see you being successful or meeting the needs of the ECCFPD under your current operation.

Your current “plan” will only serve to effectively terminate immediate efforts necessary to protect lives and property.  Which may in fact be your goal.  With that said, a one dimensional effort such as yours is not sufficient to meet the immediate needs of the District.  There are a multitude of reports that come to this conclusion.  The costs associated with another failed effort are exceptional, at all levels.

I remain gravely concerned that there is lots of time for op-eds and local gatherings but only the narrowest of effort for a business plan and/or plan of action on how you will be successful in meeting your goals on the tight time frame considering the multitude of agencies, public meetings, identification of local revenue impacts and most importantly the need for protection and enhancement of fire safety services.

I wish you would lend an ear to those who are trying to guide you and encourage your efforts to be more team oriented.  There is a lot of wisdom and experience out there and many are interested in working collaboratively.  No one person has the one solution.

County Supervisor Karen Mitchoff’s office

karen mitchoffOver the past couple of weeks we have been receiving emails and outreach from Mr. Brian Scott, who represents himself as a very concerned resident of Brentwood and East County. He recently wrote two Op-Ed’s in the Times the last of which posted yesterday, links below. He, along with a small group of East County residents have convened and are strategizing on long-term solutions to the District’s fiscal problems and he has asked whether I would convey his message back to the task force. He is advocating for Prop 13 reform, specifically to allocate property tax funds. We are not supportive of what he is suggesting.

 

Local 1230 President Vince Wells

VinceWells“I understand the concept of where they are trying to go. I believe the county and state should prioritize the services and allocate money to where the priorities are which a lot of people say its public safety and fire. In a perfect world, if that was how it was done, they could do it. In the real world, it can’t be done. To try and re-allocate funds from 30 agencies is not going to work,” said Wells. “The concept is not going to work because you are not going to be able to get all these agencies to agree. I get what they are thinking in trying to move money around versus going to the taxpayer, but it’s not realistic. Most have already found they do not even have enough money for their current operations.”

Diane Burgis, East Bay Regional Park District Trustee,

BurgisWhile I appreciate the effort they are making towards trying to solve this funding problem, I it’s neither realistic or likely to even be successful. It’s going to cost taxpayers a lot of money for all the agencies to spend time trying to figure out if they can work with it. I am not even convinced that this would even be legal,” said Burgis. “Nothing has changed in the last decade despite the rhetoric; the fix must come from Sacramento.”

Doug-Hardcastle-photo

Doug Hardcastle, Oakley City Councilman

“I am all for ideas to come forward, but it needs to go to Sacramento for re-apportionment. But how long will it take for Sacramento to get the job done to fix the problem, that is the big question and will they do it.” said Hardcastle. “There are a lot of smart people out there, it can be solved with the right solution and the right ideas come together, we just have to be open to ideas. While this plan may not work, it’s at least getting the conversation started.”

It’s time for an honest debate on a long-term fire fix rather than wasting time and effort on a plan that will never happen. The fix remains in Sacramento, not locally within Contra Costa County.

It would behoove publications and media to put some additional effort into screening “Guest Commentary” and “Letters to the Editors” to at least ensure its accuracy and feasibility, even after officials state the reality of the situation.

After all, those with the answers versus opinions are just a phone call away.

By Michael Burkholder
Publisher of ECT

To contact the publisher, email [email protected]

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32 comments

ECCFD supporter Mar 24, 2016 - 10:14 am

Wow! Great article. There is no question now. The facts are all right there. Thank you ECT for doing the work!

Propaganda H8r Mar 24, 2016 - 10:17 am

Great article! No question about it now- anybody who reads this article should be convinced about the issue. Thanks ECT for gathering all the facts!

Larry Johnson Mar 24, 2016 - 10:40 am

ECV needs to realize their plan is dead on arrival and move onto something else. Shame on the Contra Costa Taxpayers Association for enabling bad behavior to continue along with the Contra Costa Times and Brentwood Press newspapers.

David Twa pretty much laid out 6 reasons why the plan is DOA! Maybe now the focus can be redirected to something at least on the table.

Unome Mar 24, 2016 - 1:37 pm

The actual action of a redistribution must be at the state level and voted by the people. In that there is merit that this idea could work. It would take several years but it’ s not impossible. I believe the comments made by a couple political people in the article are nasty and despicable towards a group that is genuinely trying to help. If anyone is to blame on the upcoming ballot measures it would be those who are misunderstanding and attempting to alienate possible supporters of a future ballot. As in the past, to continue to separate the voters such as this article is doing only adds to a ballot failure. Maybe look at all the positives that everyone is trying to do and build from it. All this article does is propagate war between the voters. Think about it.

Buy a Clue Mar 24, 2016 - 2:23 pm

Oooooh, now I get it. So you’re into the whole false hope, deceptive marketing tactics and just generally having someone blow sunshine up your ass that has no chance of ever coming to fruition.

Bought your Trump bumper sticker yet?

EastCountyToday Mar 24, 2016 - 9:46 pm

@Unome,

Disagree, this article presents opinions of professionals who know what they are talking about based on fact and state law… not what a few people think is the law and doable.

I think we have proven those that want to start a war between voters are the anti-tax folks who are now the ones making demands.

Sharon Mar 27, 2016 - 4:57 pm

East county today I agree with you. We elect people to work on these issues. What credentials besides just being angry does this little group have? They need to put down their poison pens & work on their listening skills. If their fix was doable the politicians would be all over it. Last time I checked, most of them live, have family and own homes in the district!

Anon three Mar 24, 2016 - 9:36 pm

As usual unome is off base. That just lets me and everyone else know that the ECV Group is a farce and is purposefully leading low information voters towards another failed effort.

Buy a Clue got it right.

It’s extremely simple folks, every leader is telling them it’s a no go situation. That’s what happens when a BAD idea is run up the flag poll.

On one hand we have career people that do budgets and management for a living. We pay them very well with our tax dollars. They say this has NO chance and doesn’t work.

Then we have 2 or 3 people promoting an idea based on the fact that they don’t like taxes, don’t wish to pay for services and think firemen are overpaid and have a cushy retirement. This groups only qualifications are that they have no qualifications or expertise. They just think they know better and can ignore what they don’t want to hear.

And to think unome can’t differentiate between the two.

Reality Check Mar 24, 2016 - 9:45 pm

ECV Group reminds me of “Dumb and Dumber” so your saying there is a chance with 0.00001%!!!!!!!!!!

David Twa killed any argument of tax reallocation under ECV in his bullets. Funny that he is right than any added revenue they would fund CONFIRE before any other district. Twa admits under ECV schools are part of the plan yet they are prohibited by law.

ECV is a cult like following, best to stay off the bus because that kool aid might be the next drink. I am all for helping the fire district, but people can only say no so many times before rudeness follows.

Nancy Mar 25, 2016 - 12:41 am

These twits don’t listen. No means no!!!!! Bryan Scott and Hal Bray have to be the two dimmest bulbs in all of east county!!!! I really don’t want to pay more taxes, but anyone would be a fool to follow them down a rat hole. Their idea is not realistic. Even I can see that….. They should be held accountable!!!!! This is like yelling fire in a crowded theatre and then saying, hey at least I’m doing something. Yeah brainiacs you are f’ing up any possibility of a real solution. Get lost.

Unome Mar 25, 2016 - 8:21 am

My comment is with regards to putting people down for trying to help fix a broken law. If anyone recalls, this is how our country was started. All the put downs is the subject of my comment. The comments after mine prove that some people have closed minds about solutions. This group ECV of whom I am not a part of is at least making an attempt. They will find out the futile actions of local lobbying will be a waste and they must focus at a state level IF they want to make changes. We do not need to attack them for an effort of exploring a solution. That being said, those possible yes votes are still needed and by degrading them and alienating them only creates more friction and no votes. Maybe this is the intent of Anon three. These types of negative comments and hate will surely affect a positive outcome on the next ballot and/or future ones.

Nancy Mar 25, 2016 - 12:49 pm

Well there you have it. Unome is the nonthinking person that this group appeals to. Unome looked right over the comments that shed light to the damage this group does to any real chance we have. Disregarding the statements made by BOTH city managers and David Twa of the county is what is known as NOT listening. Unome should change his name to DEAFNDUMB!!! It’s time to stop blaming people for your own incompetence!!!! People are not putting you Down. YOU are not getting the MESSAGE!!!!!!!!!!!
.00001 percent chance was a kind way of saying NO chance. Betcha Next time they won’t get such a kind reply. Every person that was approached said NO way does this work and added that will NEGATIVELY affect a positive outcome on the next ballot and / or future ones. HOW THE HECK YOU MISSED THAT MESSAGE IS BEYOND EXPLAINATION.

Unome Mar 25, 2016 - 5:45 pm

Ok I’ll bite. Nancy, I have been thinking about how uninformed and misguided you are. First of all there is not one person in this article that has any authority on interpreting state laws. None even work in a state controllers office. So, because they have a local title or political name, what they say is truth? Your asking people with no state or federal authority. Some how that makes you rather ignorant. If they said yes you would be dumb enough to think its law. You are one reason we are 20 trillion in debt. Fine job you’ve done making a better life for your children. People like you think they have money in their checking account because they still have checks. I applaud all residents that try to help their communities unlike Nancy here.

Nancy Mar 25, 2016 - 7:48 pm

Ohhhhhh, now your post makes more sense, you are dumb as dirt! (No offense to the dirt) Showing your ignorance is just value added!!! You really think all of those managers with the cities and counties who are paid over 200k a year don’t have degrees and background on local government??? You think they don’t work with a legal staff at their side? Orrrrr is your head so buried up your butt that you didn’t see the part where the LEGISLATIVE ANALYST OFFICE weighed in and agreed with EVERY SINGLE COMMENT from our elected officials???? Please tell us how you qualify your opinion and that of the Hal Bray-Bryan Scott “un-dynamic” duo over that of people that work with counsel day in and day out. I’ll be here waiting for another one of your dumb as dirt replies!!!! You could be smart for a change and when you “bite”, just “bite” your tongue. You won’t look so stupid, trust me!!!! Now run along little one and stop hiding behind your flag of stupidity!! You are the reason morons like Trump and publications like the National Enquirer have an audience!!!!!!!

Unome Mar 28, 2016 - 7:39 am

So much hate and anger. Please calm down. Again you misread my comment. You’re hatred of Hal Bray and attempt to connect me to him or this group have your emotions driving you crazy. I have never met Hal Bray or this group. Your justifications cited as fact that this idea is impossible doesn’t hold water here in America. Because someone has landed a cushy 200 k a year public service job does not make them intelligent. To say the commenters in the article are blanketed with college degrees shows you’re not quite studied on the matter. For example, the person whom attacked the group with the foulest comment has only a high school diploma. Calm down and fall back to reality. I have no comment about this group except to say again, I applaud any citizen trying to help this failed fire district.

Nancy Mar 28, 2016 - 2:22 pm

Unome, YOU need to pay attention. YOU are still making YOURSELF look STUPID!!! Your reply only tells me you cannot read what is right in front of you!!!
Reread it dummy!! I wrote : You really think all of those managers with the cities and counties who are paid over 200k a year don’t have degrees and background on local government??? You think they don’t work with a legal staff at their side?
Managers! Sooooo, Tell me which city/county MANAGER out of the three doesn’t have a college degree or is compensated under 200k a year??? Which one does not have a background in government??? Which one DOESN’T work with a legal staff to arrive at recommendations for their board members (city council or county board of supervisors)? WHICH ONE? OR can you admit YOU screwed up and did not STUDY the matter??? Ohhhh those damned details!!!
YOU said, because someone landed a cushy 200k a year job doesn’t make them intelligent. ACTUALLY the odds say that it does. It makes them educated. The competition for those jobs is fierce and here we have YOU suggesting that ALL 3 different individuals ALL qualified to be Managers of cities and counties, just happened to land cushy jobs and aren’t smarter than someone that offered up a ridiculous idea that you think is Patriotic??? I think it is YOU that needs to calm down and get back to REALITY. Even your last statement contradicts itself. I really hope YOU are not in any position to make important decisions. If I were to guess you probably have a job that requires you wear a name tag on your uniform!!!

Victor B Mar 28, 2016 - 2:46 pm

Nancy, great reply. Whoever “unome” is, he must have failed history. The greatest U.S. Presidents did not have college degrees even though they were very accessible during their educational upbringing. Google is a wonderful tool if you wish to verify.

I wouldn’t waste any more time debating someone with such a selective memory and disregard for what is important.

All he has succeeded with is getting off topic.

Regards,

Vic

Anon three Mar 25, 2016 - 10:37 pm

Unome can pound sand. Poor little cry baby. It’s everyone else’s fault that he is so mixed up. Cry me a river.

Don’t know how screwed up his children are but mine will be just fine in spite of having to share the planet with dipsticks like him.

I would love to compare bank accounts anyday. It’s cheapskates like unome that have our county so screwed up.

And let’s not forget
No one does stupid like unome. He is the poster boy.

Vince Wells Mar 25, 2016 - 1:01 pm

I went to the CoCo Tax breakfast where the ECV did their presentation of the plan and Jack Weir didn’t let me speak even after others wanted “the unions” perspective. He took my money though!

Nicklaus Mar 26, 2016 - 11:44 pm

Mr. Wells, I’m sorry to hear you were taken by these anti tax thugs. Yes, they are thugs. They not only have serious skeletons in their closet but they put on an act that they are fighting for the common taxpayer. They are not. You could look across the entire county and not find a larger group of hypocrites.

The Taxpayer association not letting you speak was their loss.

The Taxpayer association taking your money was your loss.

The posting of the Taxpayers Association’s antics is their loss.

My score has you ahead. I’ve always known they are a bunch of dummies. Now even more people know.

Anon three Mar 25, 2016 - 2:43 pm

Co.Co.Tax=angry, tightwad, selfish, ignorant old white man’s club.

Wonder why their membership number is in the toilet?

They lost their way a long time ago and Jack Weir is a fool. He is the same Jack Weir that the voters rejected right off of the Pleasant Hill city council.

Of course they took your money and wouldn’t let you speak. The CCTPA is famous for one sided beliefs. You would have had more success selling Trump bumperstickers in the parking lot. That’s how they roll.

Ken Mar 27, 2016 - 12:24 pm

Thanks for the editorial. I knew this groups plan sounded snarky.

The old rule still applies, “if something sounds to good to be true, it probably is”.

Cctaxpayers along with Bray and Scott need to clean out their ears.

Not a Doug Fan Mar 28, 2016 - 12:19 am

“While this plan may not work, it’s at least getting the conversation started.”
Only Doug Hardcastle could make a statement so stooopid. Where has this guy been for the last decade? Dougie, the conversation has been taking place for years. The question is, why aren’t you aware of it?

If you want to be taken seriously for coco supervisor, you should pay better attention.

Hal Bray Apr 1, 2016 - 5:39 am

Mike,
Here we are once again, you doing a hit piece on our group, East County Voters for Equal Protection. Let me again thank you again for the coverage. You are a gift that keeps giving.

I have two favors before responding in detail: Can you email me when you do a hit piece so I know it’s here? I don’t read your site daily so this would help. Second, don’t do another hit piece in a holiday week; again, we are volunteers and our families are important so holidays are busy. Thanks for your cooperation.

Ok, now the response.

We are proud of our Contra Costa Taxpayers Association (CoCoTax) endorsement. Their comments are reasonable and valid. Your comment that they “fought previous attempts by both ECCFPD and Contra Costa Fire Protection District for supplemental funding…” is imprecise, at best, and reflects the type of language sleazy elected officials use. CoCoTax was opposed to tax increases, not “supplemental funding” by ECCFPD. “Supplemental funding” and “revenue enhancements” are weasel words that politicians use when trying to soften the perception of a new or increased tax or fee. So try saying “tax increase” when you mean tax increase.
Next, let’s look at Mr. Twa’s complaint that our plan would take $971,000 from the Contra Costa County General Fund and a total of $1.2 million from all the County funded Districts.

The County’s budget this year is $1.3 Billion (that’s billion with a “B”). The $1.2 million is less than 1/10th of 1%. It is, in fact, a rounding error in the County’s budget. Let’s compare that with another set of numbers: According to the CCERA (County pension fund) Comprehensive Annual Financial Report of 2014, employer contributions to employee pensions in 2005 were $147+ million. In 2014, this contribution had grown to $288+ million, an increase of $141+ million , or almost double.

No wonder our roads are potholed and our infrastructure is crumbling: larger and larger portions of tax money are going to employee benefits not resident services. Somehow, the County summons up the political will to find the money to give themselves large pensions. We just want the County to provide less than 1/10th of 1% of their budget for the safety and well-being of the residents of the district.

Next. The last thing we want to do is confuse the public (as you claim) in an effort to kill any future tax attempt. We favor a tax on the ballot, but a tax AFTER a fair and equitable property tax reallocation is completed. We believe EVERYONE, every ORGANIZATION should pay their share of the solution.

There are two reasons why government and education entities should pay their share.
First, in 1978, when the legislature allocated the property taxes after Prop. 13, our fire services were voluntary and were allocated only about 7% of the property taxes within its boundaries. Full time, established fire districts got, for example, 14% (ConFire), 15% (San Ramon Valley), 21% (Moraga-Orinda) or 30% (Kensington).

Where did the 7% to 21% that the east county fire districts did not get, go? Was it returned to taxpayers? No. It went to the City of Brentwood, the county, the various school districts and special districts in East County. So, in effect, they have been getting bonus allocations since 1978. We want 5.2% of their bonus allocations shifted to fire protection services, where it belongs.

Secondly, since fire protection and medical emergency services are paid for by property taxes and government entities (cities, counties, special districts) and school districts do not pay property taxes, they do not pay for the protection of their students, teachers, administrators, etc. And let’s not forget they are among the largest property owners (if not THE largest property owners) in East County and are large “consumers” of these services (we do want our children and educators safe when they are away from home). It is time these agencies began paying their fair share of the cost of fire district services.

Next, the closely-related questions of: Is what we are doing a good idea or a bad idea? Is it legal? Why can’t it be accomplished? And, Mike, its time you stopped ignoring the second part of our program, the implementation phase of the program.

Is what we are doing a good idea? Let’s answer with the quotes you use in your hit piece. You quote Oakley City Manager Bryan Montgomery as follows: “The re-work of the 1% property tax is a worthy ideal…” and “… the grassroots aspects of what you are doing is admirable, and addressing the problem with the 1% allocation is a great idea.” Vince Wells, Local 1230 President (Fire Fighters Union) says “I believe the county and state should prioritize the services and allocate money to where the priorities are, which a lot of people say is public safety and fire.” In other words, Vince agrees with us, but like the other public officials you quote, says “the concept won’t work because you are not going to be able to get all these agencies to agree”.
In fact, not one of the people you quote says it is a bad idea or the wrong thing to do. No, they say it will never be implemented, or it is too complex, and/or will take too long to get done, and that it will interfere with getting a new tax approved at the ballot box. But notice they don’t say WHY it will take too long, or WHY it is too difficult to achieve.

If they took their statements to their logical conclusion they would say it can’t be done BECAUSE I WON’T VOTE FOR IT. You see, Mike, our local officials are the problem. They know it is a great idea (they told us so in one-on-one meetings in their offices), they know it should be done, so that local government can provide the most fundamental service, public safety, for the common good.

But they (and notice ALL of the people you quote are elected or appointed officials who represent local governments who would have to provide funding under our plan) are going to try to kill the idea for their own parochial interest. By the way, Mike, parochial is defined by Webster as “restricted to a small or narrow scope.” So, yes, we are asking our local elected officials to think and act beyond their own pension funding, or getting their name on the new library, etc. We are asking that our local officials think, not of their legacy, but of the health and welfare of the people of East County.

Is our program legal? You bet your sweet a__ it is legal, Mike. Nobody would be fighting it if it was illegal. You are correct that Revenue and Taxation Code 99.02 restricts the reallocation of property taxes from schools, but remember also that before that section of the law passed it was legal. This is not a law of nature, like the sun rises in the east every day, but a legislative act that can be changed by another legislative act. And also remember that both Assemblyman Jim Frazier and State Senator Steve Glazer have said in the CC Times and the Brentwood Press that if we got local officials to agree to a reallocation, they would carry bills in the legislature. Let’s make them carry out this promise.

But wait, what about our implementation? Is that doable and legal?

It better be because the Cities of Oakley and Brentwood and the County have already done for the fire district what we are recommending.

We are proposing the fire district enter into a Memorandum of Understanding (MOU) with the various education and government entities to provide funding until the reallocation process is completed in the legislature. That is, each entity would establish a line item (“Public Safety” or “Student and Faculty Safety”) in their budgets in the amount that would equal what they would reallocate, and commit this line item amount in a five-year or ten-year MOU. This commitment would demonstrate to the State legislature that our local officials are committed to public safety and wish to go forward with reallocation.

Finally, I have two more issue to address: actions impacting any new tax increase and the sleaze factor in your hit pieces.

First, you indicate we are purposely confusing the public and that this will negatively impact any proposed tax increase. Well, there are three actions the fire district itself has taken that are having a much larger negative effect on the public than what we are doing.

These actions: First, the fire district, in a special session meeting, between Christmas and New Year, gave the employees of the district a pay increase. Boy, do we hear about this everywhere.

Second, the fire district implemented a “first responder fee.” People are very unhappy about this and a new tax, a “double taxation” is not going down well. And now the district is spending $290,000 on a study, polling and public outreach. No, Mike, don’t worry about us; we are the least of the district’s problems and are, in fact getting the word out on the district’s funding problem.

And, finally, you include throughout your hit piece numerous emails between Bryan Scott, myself, and several elected and appointed officials from multiple government entities. You apparently believe this makes you look like a real news reporter. But there is no way you knew about these emails, especially as they took place over multiple time periods with multiple officials from multiple entities.

This means that a sleazy elected or appointed official, or the spouse of such an official, gave the emails to you and briefed you on the on-going “conversations”. Although this reflects badly on you personally, it reflects more on the official who released personal correspondence between private citizens and their elected/appointed officials. No wonder few people in the country trust government today.

EastCountyToday Apr 1, 2016 - 6:39 am

Hal,

I apologize that I cannot accommodate your timelines… but we will publish on a timeline that we see fit to publish not what you see fit. This is not a hit piece, we quoted 12 people who said your plan was DOA. If you think this was a “gift” for exposure of your plan, you certainly have an odd perception of reality.

Best of luck in your proposal.

EastCountyToday Apr 3, 2016 - 7:11 am

By the way…. Chief Carman sent us a nice note thanking us for clearing up your misconceptions your providing the public: Here is a copy of it.

Mike-

Just wanted to tell you that I thought your article on the ECV tax re-allocation proposal was outstanding! I hope it clears up the misconception!

Thanks-

Jeff

Jeff Carman, Fire Chief
Contra Costa County Fire Protection District
2010 Geary Rd.
Pleasant Hill, CA 94523

Buy a Clue Apr 3, 2016 - 3:04 pm

There are so many circular logic arguments in that Bray piece I got dizzy!

Insisting government entities should pay property taxes to make it “fair”? Well who the F* does he think funds those government properties? The same taxpayers. He wants to grab a dollar from the taxpayer with this left hand and give it back to them with his right hand and call that a win?

There’s like 3 or 4 of the same crazy logic examples in that thing. It’s a hilarious piece if you get past all the narcissism this guys uses. Schedule rebuttals to nuts? Here, let me stop the world from spinning so you can get off!!

Anon three Apr 3, 2016 - 1:21 pm

East County Today, I’m glad you published Bray’s rebuttal. It shows everyone by his own words how out of balance he and his small group are. Maybe there is something emotionally wrong with him? I only see that he does a lot of finger pointing when in fact his numbers and accusations aren’t even close to reality.

Most of the time he contidicts himself, then trys to support his actions by taking other peoples commenrs out of context. He should proofread his material before sending it out.

Anon three Apr 3, 2016 - 1:25 pm

…trys to support his actions by taking other people’s COMMENTS out of context.

Sorry for the typo!

Nancy Apr 3, 2016 - 2:23 pm

Hal Bray-ECV must be desperate and a slightly TOUCHED to be thanking the press here for exposing them. Then he asks for favors before he goes on to berate everyone. Who does that??? Mr. Bray’s rebuttal montage raises further concerns to his state of mind. Sounds like DENIAL to me!! If Bray is such and EXPERT why doesn’t he already know his correspondence with public officials becomes public the minute he hits the send button??? Mr. Bray, being paranoid and acting crazy reflects POORLY on you!!!!! WHAT IS HE SO AFRAID OF??? Transparency or THE TRUTH? Mr. Hal Bray take a clue from the The FIRE CHIEF who said a lot more with a lot LESS words. Thanks Chief!!!!

Vincent Apr 3, 2016 - 10:44 pm

I find it hard to believe that a grown man (Hal Bray) would write a rebuttal like this. “Parochial” is how I would best describe it (thanks for the unnecessary definition Mr. Bray because we all know what Parochial infers).

Apparently Bray has thin skin which is something he needs to deal with sooner than later if he is going to take on a role of an activist.

Come to think about it, Bray and his partner have produced at least 15 or maybe 16 notices, all repetitive.

I didn’t view the editorial as a “hit piece”. I doubt anyone else besides Mr. Bray did either.

Ed O Apr 4, 2016 - 8:05 pm

Did anyone else catch this? It was the best!

“We are proud of our Contra Costa Taxpayers Association (CoCoTax) endorsement. Their comments are reasonable and valid. Your comment that they “fought previous attempts by both ECCFPD and Contra Costa Fire Protection District for supplemental funding…” is imprecise, at best, and reflects the type of language sleazy elected officials use”. -Hal Bray

Mr. Bray calling what the taxpayers did to F up the vote to save our fire district is imprecise at best. Maybe you Look into how many of their corporate interests are not paying their fair share of taxes due to corporate loopholes embedded in Proposition 13. Trust me you wouldn’t like the answer.

Hal Bray, I dont know you but from what I read you own the market on sleazy language. You need look any further than your own hit piece. Your anger, hypocrisy and denial is very apparent.

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